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Andy
08-22-2009, 12:35 AM
Views and Opinons on this template idea:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2741/avaorange.jpg

Things you would change? Don't like at all?

MudGuts
08-22-2009, 06:09 AM
Great. Simple, full site width for the game. Easy to ad any advertising above, below or in the header.

The only thing missing is the pages nav menu. I was wondering about this before. Would a breadcrumb solve a lot of navigation problems? Perhaps I should suggest this in suggestions.

-M-A-R-K-
08-22-2009, 08:21 AM
Awesome!

It's simple and thats what people like!

The search bar is where I wanted (and tried to get in a failed template attempt :p)

What happened to the nav bar containing Home, News etc..?

zapmore
08-22-2009, 11:15 AM
Indeed, nice and clean template!
And same as the others said, a nav bar with home and such would be nice! :)

Andy
08-22-2009, 01:13 PM
There are things missing, I just wanted to get the basic layout down.

It'll probably appear under the categories.

Andy
08-22-2009, 02:58 PM
Update: http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2741/avaorange.jpg

Ferron
08-22-2009, 03:38 PM
I think there should be a search button because many users will probably get confused about it. And, if the feature is default, replace the star image with a game icon.

The One
08-22-2009, 05:13 PM
I think there should be a search button because many users will probably get confused about it. And, if the feature is default, replace the star image with a game icon.

I agree.

A standard button would just kill of the design. Using a image for submiiting search would be way to go to keep it nice and clean.

The game image instead of a star would bring it to life.

I like it :)

Andy
08-22-2009, 06:17 PM
Good call on the star being the game thumbnail!

And the search will have a button the same way the improved delta template does:

http://www.andyvenus.com/upload/uploads/29665617.png

-M-A-R-K-
08-22-2009, 08:30 PM
Awesome!

A search button will definitally make it better!

nowares
08-23-2009, 11:37 AM
Very nice, but I see one thing being an issue:
Long game descriptions may cause a lot of white space near the top of the page.

Maybe you could truncate after X char then continue it after the game (to keep SEO bonus)?


It looks great though :D
Will this be the new default template?

SlyJesse
08-24-2009, 12:19 AM
This is a idea + templete feed back.

Mabye you should move the description under the game because there are some pretty long descriptions for games. Also i think there should be a box for "How to play".

timewasters.tk
08-26-2009, 05:45 PM
great template looks very promising. i can't find anything to improve it. looks great. i would consider using it.

Dylan
08-29-2009, 04:15 PM
Wow!

That is totally awesome Web 2.0 design there!

Just one question:

Do the rounded corners on the comments and tables use images or the new HTML5 Rounded Corners (http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html)?

Using code rather than images (even if the images are very small) will speed up any website.

Great work Andy! :)

LuisAlberto
08-29-2009, 06:05 PM
would be nice to add the controls on the page of each game, ie how to play...

for example: http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7514/avaorange5.jpg

Dylan
08-29-2009, 09:20 PM
Wow!

That is totally awesome Web 2.0 design there!

Just one question:

Do the rounded corners on the comments and tables use images or the new HTML5 Rounded Corners (http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html)?

Using code rather than images (even if the images are very small) will speed up any website.

Great work Andy! :)

You should check out curvyCorners (http://www.curvycorners.net/) - it's a javascript based solution for getting rounded corners without images for any html div element.

Ferron
08-29-2009, 09:26 PM
You should check out curvyCorners (http://www.curvycorners.net/) - it's a javascript based solution for getting rounded corners without images for any html div element.
Or you could just use CSS3 rounded corners and for older browers, use images.

Dylan
08-29-2009, 11:30 PM
Or you could just use CSS3 rounded corners and for older browers, use images.

Yes, CSS3 would be better, but I wasn't sure if Andy coded V5 in this.

With a few endIFs it wouldn't be hard to implement a system that would use images for older browsers and CSS3/JS rounded corners for newer :)

But out of all of the options CSS3 is the most efficient and probably the best one to go with ;)

Dylan
08-29-2009, 11:47 PM
Something I think would be really cool for this template would be to have a rounded DIV around the user controls:
http://i26.tinypic.com/2j5cu8o.png

This is the kind of way Web 2.0 is going right now.

I think it makes it look even nicer, and helps the background clouds too :)

What does everyone else think?

Dylan
08-29-2009, 11:50 PM
Fullscreen view of my idea here (http://i32.tinypic.com/2moo5rl.png) :).

belly59
08-30-2009, 02:06 PM
For rounded corners use this - http://www.spiffycorners.com

Completely CSS and cross browser compatible. (Examples - www.albinoninja.com www.afropoodle.com)

Ferron
08-30-2009, 10:49 PM
Here's my mockup:
http://i28.tinypic.com/sgtime.jpg (http://i31.tinypic.com/35a3zes.jpg)
Click for larger version.

Stars: Pinvoke Diagona set (http://www.pinvoke.com/)
Comment baloon: Function Icon set (http://wefunction.com/2008/07/function-free-icon-set/)
Smilies: Smilies for Wordpress set (http://vikiworks.com/2007/09/25/pngs-smilies-for-wordpress/)

Dylan
08-31-2009, 12:01 AM
Here's my mockup:
http://i28.tinypic.com/sgtime.jpg (http://i31.tinypic.com/35a3zes.jpg)
Click for larger version.

Stars: Pinvoke Diagona set (http://www.pinvoke.com/)
Comment baloon: Function Icon set (http://wefunction.com/2008/07/function-free-icon-set/)
Smilies: Smilies for Wordpress set (http://vikiworks.com/2007/09/25/pngs-smilies-for-wordpress/)

Wow! :D

I love that! Great work Ferron. Emotions in comments is really something cool :)

Dylan
08-31-2009, 12:03 AM
Also: Just noticed your mock-up includes a map (Home > Action > Game Title) I love that idea too! Very good for SEO ;)

-M-A-R-K-
08-31-2009, 08:30 AM
But for your User Navigation to work, the rounded box that it's in has to contract when the user logs out to look effective because there is only 'Login' and 'Registration' in there when the user logs out.

Unless they are replaced by login boxes, (which I think is a good idea :p), the box needs to contract

Dylan
08-31-2009, 11:07 AM
But for your User Navigation to work, the rounded box that it's in has to contract when the user logs out to look effective because there is only 'Login' and 'Registration' in there when the user logs out.

Unless they are replaced by login boxes, (which I think is a good idea :p), the box needs to contract

Yes, I totally agree. If you don't set any size for the DIV, it should just re-size to whatever content is placed inside of it ;)

But I agree, login boxes would be much easier, or maybe when you click "Login" via AJAX a box could drop down with the login boxes :)

Dylan
08-31-2009, 11:39 AM
Here's what I mean:
http://i29.tinypic.com/54wwi1.gif

AJAX rules ;)

Andy
08-31-2009, 12:39 PM
Complete with animation :D

Yeah I like the login box like that. Twitters one is very nice and made me think of including something like it.

Dylan
08-31-2009, 01:23 PM
Complete with animation :D

Yeah I like the login box like that. Twitters one is very nice and made me think of including something like it.
Animations are good :D

Yeah, Twitters one is very easy to use.

That kind of thing is really nice and certainly Web 2.0 - Would be cool if it was included :D

Ferron
08-31-2009, 09:08 PM
I'm not in favor of that. I think it just should be two login boxes. It doesn't matter if it has to expand or contract.

Dylan
08-31-2009, 10:00 PM
I'm not in favor of that. I think it just should be two login boxes. It doesn't matter if it has to expand or contract.

Well it's easy to implement the drop down and it certainly adds to the user friendliness and Web 2.0 - So I'm all for it :D

Ferron
08-31-2009, 10:24 PM
Well it's easy to implement the drop down and it certainly adds to the user friendliness and Web 2.0 - So I'm all for it :D
It does not add user friendliness. It adds confusion. Take MyBB's login feature for example. They have implemented a JS script so that when you click on the 'Login' link, it will display two login boxes right there. A LOT of people have asked how to disable it. This is mainly because of one simple Steve Krug rule: Don't make me think! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Make_Me_Think)

If you put a link, users will have to contemplate - even if for a millisecond - what will happen when they click that link. If you just have two login boxes, the user will know exactly what to do and will not have to think at all.

Dylan
08-31-2009, 11:12 PM
It does not add user friendliness. It adds confusion. Take MyBB's login feature for example. They have implemented a JS script so that when you click on the 'Login' link, it will display two login boxes right there. A LOT of people have asked how to disable it. This is mainly because of one simple Steve Krug rule: Don't make me think! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Make_Me_Think)

If you put a link, users will have to contemplate - even if for a millisecond - what will happen when they click that link. If you just have two login boxes, the user will know exactly what to do and will not have to think at all.

Trust me, every developer knows that the future of the internet is not to load page after page. When people want to login, they want it NOW! They don't want to go through pages.

Andy will tell you, look at Twitter, one of the biggest websites on the internet, and they use this method, it's fast, easy and Web 2.0.

Does everyone think that this drop-down is a good idea? Because I do, and I take it Andy does to :).

Ferron
08-31-2009, 11:47 PM
Every web developer knows that the most used feature of the web browser ever and still most used today is the back button. If you don't load pages separately, that convention will be completely taken out. Also, Twitter's AJAX is only for little things and the most prominent feature of their homepage is the search box, which you don't have to click on anything. It's just there. Andy has to decide which is better: a community-based game site where the login and register features are more prominent or an admin-based game site where user-user interaction is no where to be found.

Dylan
09-01-2009, 12:22 AM
Every web developer knows that the most used feature of the web browser ever and still most used today is the back button. If you don't load pages separately, that convention will be completely taken out. Also, Twitter's AJAX is only for little things and the most prominent feature of their homepage is the search box, which you don't have to click on anything. It's just there. Andy has to decide which is better: a community-based game site where the login and register features are more prominent or an admin-based game site where user-user interaction is no where to be found.

Why would you need a back button for login and register anyways?

One word. Facebook - Without AJAX and JS all you'll see is a blank page, and last time I checked, Facebook is the 3rd biggest website on Earth!

AJAX for a login box is certainly a good idea, and will make the login process faster and easier.

Andy
09-01-2009, 12:56 AM
As Dylan says, I don't think it's too confusing for users or a compatibility issue but it is a bit unnecessary when two text boxes could be placed on the page instead which actually means less clicks and is actually easier to use overall. Plus it can be achieved with zero effort.

So while the drop-down idea is nice, I shall not be adding it.

Update: http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2741/avaorange.jpg

Dylan
09-01-2009, 01:29 AM
As Dylan says, I don't think it's too confusing for users or a compatibility issue but it is a bit unnecessary when two text boxes could be placed on the page instead which actually means less clicks and is actually easier to use overall. Plus it can be achieved with zero effort.

So while the drop-down idea is nice, I shall not be adding it.

Update: http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2741/avaorange.jpg

That's nice! :D

I agree, your way is easy, but I think it'd be better if the boxes are a little smaller, they almost fit the width of the header :)

I also thought the old comments boxes with the blue headers were better :)

And where did the clouds go :(?

Ferron
09-01-2009, 02:00 AM
I also thought the old comments boxes with the blue headers were better :)

I agree. The comment boxes are too light. Without a border, it looks like the comments are just there. Also, could the usernames be a different color? And making the comment boxes different colors for regular users and admins would be better in my opinion.

Tigerbite
10-15-2009, 03:37 AM
I love the black/red template.

lusolux
11-01-2009, 12:25 AM
Hi guys

Anyone an idea when this new template will be released?
I'm planning on buying the Pro version soon and it would be great if the template would already be available :D

by the way, for all those who do not know this wonderful app, check out FIREBUG for Firefox! It helps every webdesigner with template design. ;)

cheers

NetSage
11-01-2009, 02:05 AM
Looks like the basic idea of the template is in both the templates that come with pro version already ;).

-M-A-R-K-
11-01-2009, 09:40 AM
Hi guys

Anyone an idea when this new template will be released?
I'm planning on buying the Pro version soon and it would be great if the template would already be available :D

by the way, for all those who do not know this wonderful app, check out FIREBUG for Firefox! It helps every webdesigner with template design. ;)

cheers

This template is already included with AV Arcade Pro

lusolux
11-01-2009, 10:34 AM
Oh Ok! Thank you for your response

I thought the latest Pro Version would just include one template, the black/grey/red one. Are there any further templates included in the package?

Cheers

PS: how come I don't get an email if someone posts a reply to a post or thread? :confused: EDIT: Problem solved, I'm used to other Forums where I'm automatically subscribed to threads where I post.

-M-A-R-K-
11-01-2009, 10:50 AM
There is just 2 included with AV Arcade Pro

Red - the red/black/grey one
Orange - the one posted on the first post

lusolux
11-01-2009, 10:54 AM
There is just 2 included with AV Arcade Pro

Red - the red/black/grey one
Orange - the one posted on the first post
Thank you!

SlyJesse
11-10-2009, 01:29 AM
Can we please just get a anti-spam filter on the registration form? The spammers just brought back the dead.

-M-A-R-K-
11-10-2009, 07:57 AM
Check the MODs section Foxy

SlyJesse
11-10-2009, 09:22 AM
Check the MODs section Foxy

The stupid spammers on this board, Not my website. It just brought this thread to the top.

Bad Wolf
12-14-2009, 12:57 PM
Im pretty sure this one will still be available. To where if you dont like the new one, you can stay using this one. I think all forums should have 3 skins at least. One for everyones style.

?????WTF????? This is either spam or this guy is asleep at the wheel :rolleyes:

Andy
12-14-2009, 10:55 PM
I'm unsure if it's a spam bot that takes random words from a thread or if he actually needs help.

Bad Wolf
12-15-2009, 02:25 AM
Help -LOL - Well if he did need help he hasnt been back to ask for it. Will be happy to help if he does.:)

oneranganciaf
12-20-2009, 02:59 AM
Im pretty sure this one will still be available. To where if you dont like the new one, you can stay using this one. I think all forums should have 3 skins at least. One for everyones style.